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i have heard that you can catch herring at kentucky lake below the dam. I would really like a cooler full to catfish around here in SEMO. Could anyone give me come tips on how to catch them. Can you catch them year around or in there a good time to catch them?
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#1 04-01-2006, 08:50 PM Addicted2Cats Apprentice
Maxwell Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 38 Rep Power: 1 36 Skipjack
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Apparentally cut skipjack is supposed to be the bait for large cats, especially blues. Where can I find/buy skipjack in south western Ohio? How do you catch them? What size is ideal? Does anyone have sucess stories using skipjack? Big blues are my target fish this year and I hope this will give me the edge!
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#2 04-01-2006, 08:57 PM Dreadnaught Knight
JW Fisher Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Henderson,KY Posts: 2,031 Rep Power: 43 5689 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 5
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Hey Maxwell, Welcome to the BOC, Lil'Brother!!!
We catch them in the tailtraces of dams around here on,1/8oz jigheads W/white curly tailed grubs.Tie 3 on your line about 12" apart and cast them into the swift water. Sometimes they like a medium retrieve and most times they like a fast retrieve, you have to do a little experimenting with the retrieve to find what they are hitting on. Sometimes you will have to try different colors too. __________________ Member since Aug 04
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#3 04-02-2006, 11:13 AM wolfman Master Warrior
Walter L. Flack Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Moundsville, West Virginia Posts: 906 Rep Power: 9 1000 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2
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Sabiki rigs work good too. Good luck __________________ Walter L. Flack BOC member since July 2002
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#4 04-03-2006, 11:47 PM FAT_CAT Squire
Danny Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Tennessee Posts: 53 Rep Power: 1 25
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Welcome Maxwell,
Down here, skipjack is the common name for blueback herring, considered by some to be a nuisance fish, but they do make great bait because they are very oily. Near dams have been the best spot so far. We catch them up to about 16 inches long and they can get to 4lbs. Usually I throw the heads on a hook after cutting them right behind the gill, if you find a school of cats this should do the trick and the bigger one's really seem to like the heads, but I threw a whole live 11 incher out on Sunday night and caught a 53 lb blue. I'm not 100% sure the bait was still alive because the rod was jerking for about 45 minutes before my line was stripped. The middle section that holds the gut-pocket has worked also, we usually cut them in steaks before we head out to the water as it can same time and aggravation. If you google a search for blueback herring I'm sure you can find more information and maybe even find out if they run in or near the body of water that you fish.
Danny
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#5 04-04-2006, 10:33 AM jtrew Paladin
Jerry Trew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 1,349 Rep Power: 11 1193 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2
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My dream cut of skipjack for a big blue is a smallish medium size skippie. Just the right size so I can cut the head off at an angle from just behind the head on top to just in front of the anus on the bottom. The idea is to include the gut pocket with the head, and to cut into the gut pocket on the rear so the juices can leak out more readily. __________________ Jerry Little Rock, AR
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#6 04-04-2006, 10:54 AM gofish Warrior
Joe Ware Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Greenville MS Posts: 567 Rep Power: 6 526 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1
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I do about the same as Jerry. I try to use a head and gut pocket as one bait. Also, the advice about where to find skips and what to use sound good to me. I usually catch skips at the power company warm water discharge on the river. The closest dam to me is about an hour drive. I usually use crappie jigs with two or three spaced about a foot apart. Usually two are less trouble than three. Color makes a big difference sometimes. Old faithful for me is a solid silver hair jig. I've seen one color out catch another by 5 or more to one. Experiment a little and see what works for you. The sabiki rigs work well sometimes too but they sure can be a pain in the you-know-what. Again, experiment a bit and see what is most productive in your area. __________________ Let the Good Times Roll
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#7 04-04-2006, 11:12 AM jtrew Paladin
Jerry Trew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 1,349 Rep Power: 11 1193 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2
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We'll do some skipjack fishing when they're running good below the dams here in Arkansas, but we mainly rely on our annual spring skippie run to Pickwick dam on the Tennessee River. Last year, we brought back about 300#; enough to completely fill a 7 cubic foot chest freezer. __________________ Jerry Little Rock, AR
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#8 04-04-2006, 11:39 AM Jamey Squire
James McWright Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Tennessee Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3 248 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1
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Quote: Originally Posted by FAT_CAT
Down here, skipjack is the common name for blueback herring, considered by some to be a nuisance fish, but they do make great bait because they are very oily.
Um...not quite. Blueback herring are considered nuisance fish for a reason, and they're also illegal in Tennessee. As stated in the fishing regulations, "It is unlawful to possess or transport the following animals; blueback herring...."
Here's some more info on blueback herring and TWRA's feelings about them: http://www.tnfish.org/Blueback/BluebackHerring.htm __________________ May the holes in your net be no larger than the fish in it.
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#9 04-04-2006, 12:23 PM jtrew Paladin
Jerry Trew Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Little Rock, AR Posts: 1,349 Rep Power: 11 1193 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 2
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Kinda wierd. I followed the link to that website, and while it did claim that "As stated in the fishing regulations, "It is unlawful to possess or transport the following animals; blueback herring...."", when I followed their links to the fishing regulations, I found no such mention. I went directly to Tennessee's state fishing regs, and still didn't find any such mention of being unable to possess blueback herring (skipjack). Also, it seems odd that if it's illegal, why haven't any of the game wardens working below Pickwick Dam in Tennessee ticketed anyone for possessing skipjack? In the spring, people are lined up and down the bank catching them for bait. We've been going there every spring for about 5 years now, and haven't seen or heard of anyone ever getting a ticket for possessing skipjack. __________________ Jerry Little Rock, AR
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#10 04-04-2006, 12:33 PM Arkie55 Swordsman
Terry Dunlap Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Northeast Arkansas Posts: 222 Rep Power: 5 552
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Like Jerry and Joe I use 1/16 oz crappie jigs bleow a dam. I usually have one white and one yellow to start with. Sometimes I have a white and a chartruse in tandum. That way I can figure out which color is best at the time I'm fishing and then switch both jigs to that color. I have found that the brighter the sun and better the bite. When it's hot, they usually like a fast retrieve. When things are right, you can catch plenty of bait for several trips. I bag mine in zip-lock bags, five or six to the bag and then place the bags in the ole freezer. When ready for a fishing trip, remove a bag or two and place them in a cooler on ice. They will remain forzen all day even in the hot summer weather. At the end of the day, put your un-used skippies back in the freezer for another day. __________________ Never forget your dreams.
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I've read where a couple striper guides said when striper fishing is slow the catching of the bait in the morning by the paying clients is the highlight of the day
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3s
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I have actually had better luck below Barkley but have seen guys catch them off the Piers below Ky when they are out. I always used 1/8 oz jigs with a red head and chartruse body. Most of the time we caught them in the 8" to 12" range. Now I see most of the commercial guys going to a long rod (like a crappie pole) and 2 to 4 really small buck tail jigs (shad darts, I think) and just basically flip them downstream and drag them back up. Usually between 6' to 8' foot off the bank and move them real slow (the current keeps them off the rocks). I think the guys that fish stripes do that as well to catch the smaller ones to use whole. Neat thing about it is you never kwon what you will catch. I've caught tons of whites/hybrids, some cats, and a bunch of spoonbill (your not supposed to keep them below Barkley ). Hope this helps.
Back when I was a kid we used to go there just to keep us busy. Back then we used the jigs with a tail that looked like nylon bristles in either yellow or white. Most all the bait shops still carry them or any other jig you may want.
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SEMOsportsman
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Is there a better time of the year to go catch some or can a guy go and catch them any time of the year?
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SEMOsportsman
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Is there a good time of the year to catch them or can a guy go and catch some any time of the year?
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3s
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you can preety much catch them year round. I have caught them in Jan. but its just slower than the warmer months.
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