H2ODOG
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Someone posted up about how much corn MDC plants in the Duck Park refuges. I believe it was quoted as we would be "shocked" if we knew the total acreage compared to the actual acre on the area. I know that Eagle Bluffs had roughly 2 acres of corn flooded in the refuge in the month of November. They now have roughly 5 acres of corn flooded in December.
Now 5 acres out of the roughly 2000 acres of duck hunting area ain't much when you look at it in acres. Now look at from a farming aspect.
Each ear of corn has roughly 600-800 kernels on it. One acre of corn with a 100 bushel yield will produce about 7.5 million kernels of corn. Some corn varieties can produce almost double that on an acre of corn with 1-2 ears per plant.......SO take your pick 7.5-13 MILLION kernels of corn off of one acre of corn.
So in November ducks had 15 million kernels of corn on the refuge and in December they now have almost 38 million based on some small yields. That doesn't count the corn that didn't get harvested in the shooting pools that is a refuge after 1pm.
SO.....why leave an area with all that food???? So the man with all the information of just how little number of acres were planted in corn on the CA refuges please let everyone know.
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Vogi
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Just to help out, you're a little high on your kernel count. 
And for those of you that want to know the bu/acre, mutilply the kernel count times the stand count, and divide by 90,000. That should get you close. 
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H2ODOG
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On which count Vogi???  A bushel of corn has roughly 90,000 kernels of corn. bu/acre is gonna depend on the width of the rows, how much it is stressed, water, etc. 50 kernels per row at 12 rows gets 600 kernels. Hybrids have shown to get up to 14-16 rows. I don't know what MDC plants and they wouldn't let me on the refuge this morning to measure the row width so my counting is a little off I must say.  This is all in theory of course because we don't even know how many damn acres MDC has planted, the width, the DPA (thats Ducks Per Acre) and I need to know how much corn would a duck eat if a duck could eat corn. 
Besides the kernel count per ear or bushel ain't my figures......its from the damn National Corn Growers Association numbers. Blame their ass for the wrong figures. I'm just the messenger.
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duko™
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I wanna see you do that with rice! 
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H2ODOG
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Looks like we agree on the 90,000 kernels per bushel Vogi. 90,000 bushels for 100 bu/acre gets ya 9 million kernels in an acre. I might need Dos Gris to come in here. He's the Cafe Math guru.
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Vogi
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H2ODOG said:
Hybrids have shown to get up to 14-16 rows.
What site did you quote that line from? Even a worldly man as your self couldn't have come up with this statement.
I'll be sure and save you some 20 counts next year.
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BruceCarp
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corn has averaged 140-180 bushel per acre on some areas.
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Vogi
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Here's a question for the masses. Where is the best corn on Grand Pass?
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sptsman
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In the refuge, of course...
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Whackattack
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You mofos are really looking for a reason to argue around here aren't ya?
Number of Kernels on a ear of corn? Come on boys there's got to be some other sh!t to argue about. 
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Vogi
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In the refuge, of course...
I'd have to agree. Westside refuge at that.
Now, for the hunting pools. How would you rank the pools as far as corn quality?
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sptsman
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From what little I have seen, it is pretty damn good for a duck hole. Hard to compare it to real crops because it is planted for ducks, not crops. I was only in Pool 5 (northwest section) and only once. But from what I saw it was as good or better than any other duck corn I've seen at private clubs. Looked to me like the ducks could stay there until Spring if they wanted...
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H2ODOG
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Here's a damn picture for ya famerman.  Seeing is believeing yes????
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H2ODOG
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http://www.ipm.iastate.edu/ipm/icm/2006/5-30/kernels.html
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Vogi
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dog, at least use a Missouri website next time. As for the pics, those tend to be more the norm rather than the exception.
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H2ODOG
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Vogi the Wellhead field produces some real fine lookin corn. 
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H2ODOG
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Do ya mean exception rather than the norm??????? 
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Vogi
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Vogi the Wellhead field produces some real fine lookin corn.
Better sunflowers in that hole from what I've seen.
I don't know what pool has the best corn, but it definitely is better from east to west on that place. But I'd almost bet the farm that pool 3 would be the same killin' hole it is, even if all the corn was harvested.
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H2ODOG
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Duko....with rice you get about 162 pounds per barrel. The average acre produces 30-50 barrels/acre. Each pound of rice has a fukin lot of rice pieces so you do the damn math.
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Vogi
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H2ODOG said:
Do ya mean exception rather than the norm???????
Nope. Lots of 12 row ears out there, but anymore you will find just as many with 14 to 16 on them. At least in our area.
Since you're in an agronomy mood, see if you can find out when the number of rows an ear is gonna have is determined. 
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H2ODOG
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Depends on the gene type.  The amount of moisture in the soil, sunlight, rain, wind speed, soil pH, and when it was planted in accordance to the Farmers almanac  Combine all those goodies and ya get how many kernels, the number of rows, and the row length.
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Dos Gris
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Each cottonwood tree has approximatly 423,954,221 seeds.
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Vogi
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Quote:
sptsman said:
Hard to compare it to real crops because it is planted for ducks, not crops. I was only in Pool 5 (northwest section) and only once. But from what I saw it was as good or better than any other duck corn I've seen at private clubs. Looked to me like the ducks could stay there until Spring if they wanted...
Some is planted for only ducks...some areas are planted late because its wet. But the majority of the row crops grown on the pass, are planted for "real crops" by local farmers. The farmers harvest their part, and leave the MDC part for the ducks. I don't know the exact rental terms, but that's the basics.
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Vogi
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 @ dog. Next dovestock I'll explain it to you, really late in the night. That way I can make up the parts I don't know and you'll believe it.
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