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Who has a diesel pickem up truck or know of someone that has one and what kinda mileage are ya gettin highway and city? 
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My 1 ton power stroke gets around 27 m.p.g set on cruise at 65 mph.
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Considering the net $$$ you're going lose trading vehicles you could drive the one you have for at least another 5 years and come out further ahead. 
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3/4 ton GMC that gets 20 @ 70-75mph going acrost KS
Oh yeah, avg mileage on it after 68k miles is 17.0.
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Krazy
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Considering the net $$$ you're going lose trading vehicles you could drive the one you have for at least another 5 years and come out further ahead.
But the one I got dont smell as good as the new ones! 
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Krazy,
I bought one 9,000 miles ago, and the thing gets crappy fuel mileage, 12-13 around town, and up to 15-16 highway....that is, unless I cruise on the Freeway, DOWNHILL, at under 65, then it is pretty dang impressive!
But who can do that consistantly....forkin' OTHER traffic will run yer azz over out here...
It's a 4X Dually, and I s'pose that don't help much neither!!!
My other 4X has a Hemi, and that is even worse, around 11 in town, and up to 16 when the cruise is set, and I stay under 65,again, DOWNHILL---Whoop-dee-forkin'-do!
I was gonna "chip" the Diesel rig, but I had a BIG HEADED Diesel Guru tell me not to bother, it weren't gonna help much, plus it could cause tranny problems on the automatic---So I dunno what to do....but both them trucks are awful thirsty all the time is what I DO know!
I think maybe if you get a 2-wheel drive, lightweight truck, ya might could do alright on fuel consumption....but if ya get one of those, why get a truck anyway????
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Mine gets an "impressive" 16 or 17 HWY at 80 mph. However,
it will get that milage light or with 2000 lbs in the back.
Over all, they suck. Rough riding, clattering, fuel sucking
garbage is what they are. The only way to come out is if
somthing is strapped to the back every mile you drive.
Or you can drive one simply because you can.
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Krazy
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How bout a gasser with a 3.55 gear instead of a 3.73 (20" wheels)???
Is that sumbitch gonna be able to pull a 3,000lb trailer down the road worth a dam?
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How bout you just go and buy a damn truck already. Just make sure it says CHEVROLET and you won't have no damn problems   
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Krazy
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Dude...this is a once every 7 years or so deal for me.
I cant go makin no rash decisions. I did that before I bought the current ride. Traded its predacessor off after 10 long months...the wife rode my ass for several years as if the beatin at the dealership wasnt enuf.
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I wouldn't trade my diesel for another gas truck for anything. It's a truck.....it's supposed to be rough riding, smelly, loud, and obnoxious. I get about 17 combined city and hwy....I can get over 20 if I keep it around 65 on the highway....but I don't....Like DosKnucklehead said....gas mileage is the same whether you're empty or pulling your house.
Personally, I like nothing better then to piss off the neighbors and especially other hunters at a hotel when I warm it up in the morning.
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My Dodge will do 15 in town and can get @18 on the highway if I keep my foot off the peddle. That is on 1 ton dually. I love my diesel and I will never replace it with a gasser!
I had a chevy 350 and it would never do better than 15 and 11.
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Dos Gris
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Are those 3.55's coupled to a 5.4???? If so that damn
engine has a real chitty torque curve. It'll pull a stump
out the ground, but won't pass a blue hair @ 45 mph while
your towing your boat.  Been there done that.
I would stay with the gas, it is by far the cheapest cost
per operating hour over the diesel.
To answer your question, no it wont tow worth a chit...but
you will be happier with your checking account in the end.
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I wouldn't trade my diesel either but it will be better when the fuel stations put out a vasoline jar by the pump to make filling easier.  I am starting to get pretty sore from the $.40-$.50/gal. difference diesel over gas, forking they are giving us. Prolly won't get any better til after harvest.
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Krazy
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I wouldn't trade my diesel either but it will be better when the fuel stations put out a vasoline jar by the pump to make filling easier. I am starting to get pretty sore from the $.40-$.50/gal. difference diesel over gas, forking they are giving us. Prolly won't get any better til after harvest.
I did the math and if you get 2mpg better performance with a diesel over a gasser that $.36 per gallon difference between gas and diesel fuel cancel each other.
If they ever get over forkin everybody over that dam additive the EPA requires in low sulfur diesel...then maybe the price at the pump will even out and make it more economical to run diesel.
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Krazy
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Check this chit out.
If Mercedes can build a diesel car to get this kind of performance....why in the hell cant GM, Ford or Dodge?
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features/specs/performance.do?modelCode=E320CDI&class=06_E
http://www.mbusa.com/models/features/specs/overview.do?modelCode=E320CDI&class=06_E
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Krazy, you need to look at the other factors other than just fuel economy. Like engine life, general maintenance, and resale value. Lets take the Cummins 5.9 for example, 500K expected life before reduild, use syn. oil and do oil changes every 10k-20k pending an oil analysis. Sorry for the rant, but i wont be going back to a gasser any day soon. I get 18-20 around town and about 23 on the hwy doin 75-80. Its gets even better if you dont have a heavy foot like i do. And performance mods do increase fuel economy.
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I drove from Slidell, LA to Perryvile, MO on a tank of fuel empty driving Mach 1 in a 3/4 ton diesel. It took $98.00 to fill the truck. Buddy took the same trip and he filled up in Memphis and in Perryville...bout $85 each fill. I believe I'm ahead in fuel cost.
I'll take my stump yanking, rattlin, 19.5 mpg average on my 1 ton diesel anyday over a toy that runs on gas. Running 65 with my chip in it its closer to 23.....and at 90 mph its closer to 16mpg.
I've been burning diesel trucks for 9 years and I'll never own another gas truck. PERIOD. The fuel/gas cost is about the same, but the diesel gets better milage, tows more, and runs forever.
Of course what do I know. I own a four stroke boat motor that I'm still not ahead with at $3.15/gallon premium fuel.
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One more thing, dont go for the 6.0. 
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Dog, what kinda truck you driving...
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One more thing, dont go for the 6.0.
Why...cause it aint a Dodge?
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No, because they have had a ton of problems. Trust you me, if I had an extra 10 grand laying around I would have my cummins in a ford, so I make due without.
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One more thing, dont go for the 6.0.
Why...cause it aint a Dodge?
With the 6.0 Chev, you can pass anything in the world, except a gas station.
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Im talking bout the powerjoke 6.0. My neighbor has a 6.0 chevy and swears up and down he gets 18 around town.
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Oh yeah....almost forgot until someone reminded me....I drove my 1999 diesel into the damn ground....just drove it and forgot it except for changing the oil......even lit a stick of dynomite in the cab at 120 mph...of course, the inbred Nodak bastard screamed like a girl until I threw it out....but that's a minor detail. 
Sold it with 146,000 miles on it for $18,000 in 2005.....book was $18,700. Try that with your gas truck.
And before Dos Gris posts up something completely ridiculous and equally stupid about how much I paid for it origionally compared to what I could have bought and sold a gas truck for....I did the math at the time in order to figure out if a diesel was worth it again.....I came out over $5000.00 ahead.
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I just traded my 02 7.3 diesl for 5.4 gas burner went from 20 mpg to 12 mpg Big fork up
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Just buy the damn diesel and be done with it.
Geuss im lucky enough to have a 6.0 that hasn't had a problem,even with 234,379.7 miles on it 
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I've owned a bunch of gas trucks in my life, and bought my first diesel, a 99 Dodge, 3 years ago. I won't buy another gasser.
I double tow with my 28' 5th wheel with the 18' jetboat on the back of it and still do about 14 mpg. Try that with a gas truck and see what your mileage does.
Besides, I love the smell of diesel in the morning...
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Duckbit....I drive a dodge. It will be my last one. Dodge has put 3 injection pumps, a lift pump, fuel rail, and 6 new injectors in the truck in the past 5 months. All under warranty and don't get me started on the current "issue" they got it in the shop for now. I put 110,000 miles on my truck in under 2 1/2 yrs and its hooked to a trailer for 100,000 of those miles. I would figure the fuel to gas saving on the truck, but my calculator doesn't have that many zero's.
Next rig will be a Ford. They did have some problems with the 6 liter powerstroke....head gasket, injectors, but they have em fixed.
Unless ya got a 6 cylinder gutless engine in a 1/2 ton truck, you won't get better gas milage out of a big V8 over a diesel. I get atleast 5mpg better than most gas trucks. That's an extra 180 miles a week I get out of a tank. Thats 10,000 more a year or roughly 830 gallons of gas......of course there is no savings in owning a diesel, just ask the coon ass in LA.
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STTH...you gotta find a better place to buy diesel. 40-50 cent a gallon difference.....I ain't seen that. You need to stop buying fuel in a one stoplight town.
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How bout you just go and buy a damn truck already. Just make sure it says CHEVROLET and you won't have no damn problems
Hell, they charge an admission price to walk on the Chevy parking lot. One problem ya got with a Chevy is the price. You might have to sell the trailer ya live in Krazy to buy a Chevy. Your truck payment would be more than your trailer payment.....plus when we went to Canada last year, Dabs chevy looked like it was driving uphill the whole way pullin my boat.
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Krazy
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Wif is outta town this week. Wonder if she be pizzed when she gets home and sees this in front of the double wide? 
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H2Odog i don't buy locally unless absolutely have to but because I refuse to pay the thiefs here in town Once a week or whenever It needs fuel the redhead takes it instead of the car to work to fill up. What gripes me aboout the lack of competition in this town and their ability to stick it to ya. A couple weeks ago when I went to the state fair fuel was 3.06 in Marshall and it was 3.19 everywhere else and 3.28 here at home it is 3.11 (gas 2.65)now and when we came back from the lake I saw 2.99 in Sedalia
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Anything but gas. That would be a nice addition to the family.
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Krazy
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You need to move closer to cheaper fuel!
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Dos-
Did you just say a gas motor is cheaper to operate per hour? Set down that crack pipe and crunch some numbers.
Diesel=better fuel economy by far, longer engine life, Less maintenance.
Gas=shitty efficiency, short engine life, more maintenance.
oh yea and Real Trucks Dont Have Spark Plugs.
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so which vehicle--GM, Ford, or Dodge.
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How bout you just go and buy a damn truck already. Just make sure it says CHEVROLET and you won't have no damn problems
Hell, they charge an admission price to walk on the Chevy parking lot. One problem ya got with a Chevy is the price. You might have to sell the trailer ya live in Krazy to buy a Chevy. Your truck payment would be more than your trailer payment.....plus when we went to Canada last year, Dabs chevy looked like it was driving uphill the whole way pullin my boat.
GM pricing lets you buy affordably, if you can get it....15 to 18% off the price after incentives usually brings things down quite a bit.
The reason my truck was squattin was you had that heavy assed 4 stroker hangin off that aluminum pile I was pullin
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How bout you just go and buy a damn truck already. Just make sure it says CHEVROLET and you won't have no damn problems
Hell, they charge an admission price to walk on the Chevy parking lot. One problem ya got with a Chevy is the price. You might have to sell the trailer ya live in Krazy to buy a Chevy. Your truck payment would be more than your trailer payment.....plus when we went to Canada last year, Dabs chevy looked like it was driving uphill the whole way pullin my boat.
GM pricing lets you buy affordably, if you can get it....15 to 18% off the price after incentives usually brings things down quite a bit.
The reason my truck was squattin was you had that heavy assed 4 stroker hangin off that aluminum pile I was pullin
Its a damn good thing it wasn't cold up there or we wouldn't have gotten any fishing in too.
15-18% off the sticker price gets the bastage down to a sticker price of Ford or Dodge. They is always proud of them bowties and EXTREMELY proud of them Good Made Chevy's.
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so which vehicle--GM, Ford, or Dodge.
For a new vehicle, I wouldnt have a clue. If you are interested in a diesel now is the time to buy, the new emmision stardards are raising costs and decreasing power outputs big time. Turbo Diesels are getting far to advanced for the do it yourselfer. I like something I can work on. 12 valve cummins is probably all I will ever have.
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I aint owned a gas pickup since '93. All have been Dodge so I cant really speak from first hand experience too much on other brands. IMO Dodge went to chit in 98.5 w/ the 24 valve, as far as maintenance-free running. I've had two diesels in the driveway the last three or four years, one being a 96 4x4 that I drive. We bought an 06 dually a couple of weeks ago. Sweeeet ride, six speed, and a trailer draggin sob. I only drove it home, so I couldnt say what it's getting right now, but I'm gonna guess about fourteen w/ a 28 ft. horse trailer that's tall and eight wide. Like pulling a wind sock. If you even think you want a Dodge you need to buy one right forkin NOW. I mean get your azz down there tomorrow. Unless you'll qualify for 0%, then you got time. But if not, try to get in on the employee discount+rebates. You should be able to take them down to 78% of list or so. I'm talking a little over 30 for a Dodge dually four door w/ High Output Cummins-six speed.
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Krazy, I got mine about a month ago, i went from 11 mpg about everywhere, to 19 in the city and 22-23 on the highway. Im gonna get the chip that is supposed to give 4-5 more mpg. I got a Dodge simply because of the Cummins engine. Hell, ford is supposed to be switching engines soon to International or Cummins. Appearantly there have been a lot of problems with the powerstroke?? Give me a call and Ill let you take it out for a spin....
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Duckswit.....WTF you talking about with maintenance??? A
gasser you change the oil every 5K and forget about it for
200K. Hell, listen to waterpup and his problems at 100K with
the Dodge. I haven't had any issues with my 6.0 powerstroke
yet, but it's no daily driver either.
You talk about crunching numbers, but your calculator dont
work or you like to stretch the truth.
I ran all the numbers before I bought mine a couple years
ago, and the diesel is inefficent to run UNLESS
there is somthing strapped to the back.
I guess my 3/4 ton is getting crappy mileage at 16 to 17. I
mean thats a hell of alot better than my 96 Chevy's 16 mpg.
And since everyone on here pulls a boat with them to work,
we should all buy diesels to save money, right?
I drive my trucks for around 4 to 5 years apiece, so I don't
give a ratts ass about long life. Like I said, I can't make
the numbers work for the diesels. But what do I know....I do
know that the diesels I operate cost about $9,027 per
operating hour per year, not including the $125,000 overhaul
every 3.52 years.
BTW.....take your oil analysis and shove it up your arse..
you'll already KNOW you have problems before they
get back to ya. 
OH, and did you figure in the add on exhaust, chips, and air
induction stuff in on your "number crunching"????
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OOOPPPs....I was doing some waterpup math.That $9,027 is
divided by 24hrs, leaving $376.12 per hour.
Don't tell my boss I'm a dumbass. I guess sooner or later he's gonna figure it out like everybody on here already knows.
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DoucheGrits....lets see if I got this right.
Ya crunched the numbers with your abicus and found it not effient to have unless ya pull something. You leave your truck parked in the driveway since it doesn't get driven everyday........yet you went out and bought a diesel truck knowing ya was gonna be gettin the shaft. Makes perfect sense to me.
While your busy trying to convince everyone hear that you don't know $hit about nothin, please explain to all the people on here that own 4 strokes how we gotta warm em up in the winter and how the fuel savings over a 2 banger don't add up to the extra cost of buying it......especially right now with premium gas at a price hoverin $3.00 a gallon.
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I guess i did not specify owning the vehicle for a reasonalb amount of time. I was maily talking about used, as new diesels are having far to many problems to pay 40K to be a guinea pig.
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I knew you would show back up....I drive one because I can,
plain and simple. I don't like taking a 1/2 mile to pass a
damn FEMA hauler draggin a bowed axle piece of crap BIG TEX
trailer down the road. My gas pickups wouldn't tow up to my
expectations, so I wouldn't aggrivate myself any longer.
However, my every day driver is a gas pickup (company) and
so is the wifes. The less I drive the 3/4 ton, the less it
cost me. At this point with 30K miles on my wifes Envoy and
the same on the diesel, The gas maintenance is roughly $300
and my truck is $600. Where are the savings? Hey, I
own both so show it to me dude.
As far as you four banger debate goes, I believe that the
difference in purchase price figured out to running 380 hrs
or so to break even buying a four stroke. So about 4-5 years
of operation, more than that for most people.
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So now we gotta compare and SUV to a truck....yep same category. Where do ya hook up the gooseneck and 5th wheel on that Envoy? Try staying on topic......Gas TRUCKS vs. Diesel trucks Comparing truck vs. truck the savings is in the fuel milage. Obviously you have a hard time figuring fuel consuption and savings. Lets just agree that your an idiot and call it good. I don't have the time to teach you Economics 101.
Atleast we agree on one thing. BIG TEX trailers. I guess that's why my 4 dump trailers ain't Big Tex. And who works for FEMA.....I ain't got one check from them yet.
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Dude.....another flock just flew over. I'm not talking about
towing. 17 MPG and 16 MPG, there almost the same. I believe
thats what the original topic was. I may not
know Krazy, but he never talks about jerkin a trailer all
over creations.
I don't need you to try to teach me your version of
economics.....they don't add up. When fuel is your biggest
expense you watch it closely. One of our larger boats will burn 14,000 gal of fuel North bound in a day, don't talk to me about fuel or diesels.
You might want to stay with your buddies and talk about
your disposable engines.
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If you don't own that rig that burns 14,000 gallons a day then you ain't too worried about the bottem line either. Hell I bet they take care of your fuel in your company truck, so who cares about gas prices too? 16mpg for a gas engine don't come close to the 20+ I get with an empty truck. I spent over $10,000.00 last year out my own pocket for just diesel fuel. You gettin close to that out of YOUR checkbook?
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krazy's truck will not be driven without a trailer
Looks like its a diesel then.
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Dog, dog, dog......you treat the companies money as if it
were your own. That is from the book "Economics 102". 
Well I don't own that rig but I manage my part of it and
30 others. If I could find a dependable engine that can
gaurantee me a 10% fuel savings, I'd change every one of
them. It's my JOB to do what I can to save us
money at the end of the day.
BTW.....The company does pay for my gas, it's one of the
perks along with the check. 
As far as your out of pocket expenses......you chose your
profession dude.
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Dog, dog, dog......you treat the companies money as if it
were your own.
As far as your out of pocket expenses......you chose your
profession dude
When you OWN the company, all the equipment & pay all the bills.......well that pretty much makes it MY DAMN MONEY. I don't see anyone else's name on the door or accounts. I'd go into greater detail but that Business 201. Bottem line...it ain't your money....and since ya like them two strokers, you don't manage it well.
Yes I chose my profession. I get to hunt, fish, or just plain fuk off whenever I want to. I hunt and fish over 100 days a year easy. Ya it sucks to be me. Did I mention that all that fuel, food, & lodging all get wrote off. Oh yes, it sucks to go hunting and take it off your taxes. I'm leaving in 2 weeks for Alaska on yet another business trip. Sea Duck hunting in January....business of course.  Ya know....PERKS of being the boss.
I'll take my fuel cost anyday for a trade off for working for myself and being able to do what I want, when I want, and for how long I choose. Now, get your ass back to work before the man finds out how much you really fuk off all day. I'm going fishing.
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Well with an ass that big Mel I'd hope so. 
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Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! 
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BWAAAHAAAAHAAAA.....Geez man, I strike a nerve. Just a
couple helpful hints......If you would GO to work
instead of fkng off all the time, maybe you could find out
why that extra $10 grand is coming out of your pocket vs.
the job profit.
You realy push the hunting and fishing, other guys I know
use that card on me. We'll see who's laughing 20 years
down the road. I may even hire you to prune my hedges, we
could talk hunting.....as long as your off my clock.
Thanks for the advice.
BTW are we straight on the Diesel fuel now?
OH YEAH....
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We'll see who's laughing 20 years
down the road.
You'll prolly be dead from doing all the math trying to figure out how to save a penny....by all means, save all you can so you can enjoy life when you're old.
BTW - you spend DOUBLE for fuel in your diesel vs. your old ladies rig and you drive a company truck to work?? BULLCRAP!
Try it this way numbnuts.....figure the old hag drives a rig that gets 20 mpg and your pile of junk gets 15. She pays $2.80 a gallon and you pay $3.00. You both drive 100 miles a day. At the end of the month you spent $180.00 more then her. She's in for $420 and you're in for $600.
If you want.....I'll figure it out for the 30,000 you got on your rig and the piece of crap she drives....it ain't NOWHERE near double for your raggedy ass truck that you claim it is...and keep in mind, pea brain...she ain't getting 20 and you ain't getting 15.
KEEP MAKING THAT GOOD CHEESE!!!!!!!!
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For the last three months around my house diesel was 20 cents cheaper than gas, its this forking converting to ULSD which is gonna put a rise for awhile. I can breathe just fine...
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Dude 20 years from now I don't plan to be working. I know I'll be laughin 20 years from now.....I'm laughin at your stupid ass right now. My Roth IRA's that have been collecting money for 15 years already should be doing quite well in another 20 years too. Keep working by all means, I'm gonna keep doing what I do. Enjoyin life while making damn good money. I'm gonna drag out a Caribou at 33 not 63 when my boys gotta wipe the drool off my chin.
Ya might not wanna wait 20 years to trim them hedges.....we don't do lawn maintenance. Never have never will. I'll ask the neighbor boy.....he does a good job on mine.
You do the math on 60,000+ miles driving a year for 2 trucks and see what kinda fuel cost ya got. Its amazing what work CAN be done 900 miles from a jobsite with a cell phone. I'd try explaining Business and Econ 102 to ya...but you still work for someone else. You won't understand. 
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Dam...I wonder how much mileage a fella could get iffn he posted up a thread on banning robos.
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Griffen, if you read the post it states "maintenance". As my
records point out, I have made 5 oil changes @$70 and a
couple fuel filters @$100 a pop in the diesel. That works
out to $550. The old ladys rig has had 10 oil changes @$30
each which is $300. So over 30K miles this is what it cost
me to operate both. As stated before, the mileage is close
to the same.
When I "run the numbers", I figure out the fuel burn per 24
hrs at rated BHP, overhaul cycle, parts and labor to rebuild
said equipment, break all this down to a cost per operating
hour over a 10 year period. I do this at work and about the
same for my own purchases. However, I know this isn't as
accurate as scribbling down some chit on a note pad at the
kitchen table trying to make the #'s work for the wife so
she will let me buy it.
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Congrats on the financial stability dog. And to think I
thought you were a moron. When I walk away from
here in 24 more years I will have 40 years of service, paid
insurance and a good pension, (hopefully). So yes I will
keep workin and retire at 60, luckily I have over 5 weeks
vacation to enjoy each year till then.
As far as 2 trucks and the numbers, I can do that for a
fee when I get time.
And yes it is amazing what you can fix over a cell phone.
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Krazy.....I now see the error of my ways. Luckily last night
in the mail I recieved a sign. Ford sent me their magazine
advertising low intrest rates on the Super Duty. I am going
to use some of what I learned here to get to a "higher"
level.
First I'm going to the dealership and buy a new 1 ton and
finance that baby for 7 years. I'm not worried about the
cost, just buying the paymment...which comes into play
later. Remember I'll have better fuel savings.
Next I'll proceed straight to the local boat dealership and
purchase a new flat boat with a four stroke.(fuel savings)
I'll slap a 10 year note on that baby and use my fuel
savings from the truck, coupled with the money saved from
the lower 7 year note to pay for that. I mean I'm gonna
keep the boat for 10 years, right???
Then I'll load up my gear in the boat(whatever isn't in -
lay away) and head to work or gathering and get even better
savings by pulling a load every where I go, and brag about
how bright I am.
Does this sound any better???
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My '96 Ford has 201,xxx miles and still gets 19mpg going to/from work (Foristell to Earth City). I have gotten as much as 23-24 going on long trips. It's got 3.55s in it so that helps.
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I will have 40 years of service, paid
insurance and a good pension, (hopefully).
"Hope" is not a method. 
As for running out and buying that boat....sure does suck for you that you cant just pay cash instead of eatin all that interest.
So "hopefully" you can figure out how to get you a 0% loan on the boat as well.
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Yes, by all means.....pay cash up front for everything you buy....that way you can waste the 4% interest you could make on your money with a simple CD from a bank while you pass up the chance to use THEIR money on 0% or 2% interest from the dealer.
Goddamn DosGris.....keep hoping.....you're gonna need it.
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When I walk away from
here in 24 more years I will have 40 years of service, paid
insurance and a good pension, (hopefully). So yes I will
keep workin and retire at 60, luckily I have over 5 weeks
vacation to enjoy each year till then.
Do you mind if I cut this out to show to my kid for the times when he thinks school isn't important??
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Wow, after 24 more years you are gonna retire. I'm sure your body won't be beat down and worn out by then. And to think for the next 24 years THE MAN is gonna give you 5 weeks off a years.  I hope we're not supposed to be impressed griffin gets than many weeks of vacation after working 2 months.
You talkin to the wrong people if ya think we gotta sit down with the wife and convince her of what we think we need. We just buy it and ask her if she likes the color.
And for a penny pinching tightwad Douchegits....you sure do spend way too much money on your fuel filter. I found ya an OEM filter in 15 seconds for 1/2 the money. No need to thank me. B's fuel fiter I'm just trying to make your truck more affordable. I'm not a diesel mechanic, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night so the filter should work.
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I haven't had a vacation in 15 years.
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Thats because you retire every Oct 1 ya crazy old bastage.
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$50 bucks for a fuel filter on your 03 Dog? Thats crazy, but sounds better than Dos for $100. I wonder if they used lube or not.....
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I can't believe I just read all this chit... I ride a bike.
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I don't have a dog in this fight, but you didn?t factor in the hit you take from the instantaneous depreciation of buying a new vehicle. I don?t do all of the number crunching and chit ya?ll are talking about, but buying a brand new truck or outboard in the name of ?saving money in fuel? is just stupid. When you buy it, say you are buying it for the real reason, BECAUSE YOU WANT IT. If you want to save real money, down grade your vehicle substantially to a fuel efficient car or just keep driving whatever beater you have until the wheels or prop fall off.
If you like having new stuff and can afford it, good for you. If you are like the rest of us and can?t throw money around like it?s nothing, buying used and paying cash is the real key to saving money.
Being 100% free of debt feels great, you should try it.
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The 03' fuel filter for my dodge is $39.00 at the dealer......of course I can buy the same damn filter from Cummings in town for 1/2 the price. I know ya gotta buy the truck from the dealer but it doesn't mean ya gotta buy their oil and filters.
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With all the damn driving you do, are you still doing oil changes every 3 or 5k?
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If you like having new stuff and can afford it, good for you. If you are like the rest of us and can?t throw money around like it?s nothing, buying used and paying cash is the real key to saving money.
Being 100% free of debt feels great, you should try it.
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I know that's right!
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If I do a bunch of real hard heavy pullin I try to change the oil every 3500 miles. 7 days a week pullin a loaded 24' trailer put a toll on the oil.
Most of the miles are highway so the truck oil gets changed about 5-6K miles.
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Salty...fer sum of us yer spot on in regards to want over need. I dont need a new truck....but tired of the 6 year old horse I got and even more tired of the "ass" smell in the sumbitch.
Anybody got any depreciation numbers to throw out there for a fella that keeps a ride for 6 years? I figure the truck I got now aint gonna go down in valule too much more....but the maint costs are gonna kick in soon Im sure.
I put new brakes and turned the rotors all around a couple weeks ago $125.
New battery comin anyday...still milkin the one from the factory.
Tires, power steering pump, tranny svc, cv boots/joints, u-joints, rear diff gasket, transfer case svc, seals..and who knows what else.
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If you want to save real money, down grade your vehicle substantially to a fuel efficient car or just keep driving whatever beater you have until the wheels or prop fall off.
I'll try buyin a fuel efficient car next time.....where do I install the gooseneck at?  And just where do I place the 20 dozen duck decoys, my dog, 3 buddies and all our gear. Oh wait, I need to go find a used CLOWN Car....my bad.
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If you want to save real money, down grade your vehicle substantially to a fuel efficient car or just keep driving whatever beater you have until the wheels or prop fall off.
Kevin
Here's another lesson in Business 102. If you own a vehicle and you do actual expenses...not straight line milage.....well after the depreciation you start LOOSING money on that vehicle after you own it 3 years. You either run it into the ground and go buy another or trade it off.
After 3 years my truck will have close to 150,000+ miles and its getting worn out. A truck with a warranty is a good thing.
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A truck with a warranty is a good thing.
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Being 100% free of debt feels great, you should try it.
Kevin
Obviously you don't own a house. Not all of us can afford to piss away rent money every month or live in our parent basements.
What happens if ya pay cash for new stuff?? Am I still ahead????
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A truck with a warranty is a good thing.
And a warranty that the manufacturer actually stands behind is even better yet!
Better buy a Ford then.
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My suburban has a gas engine. It's not as strong as my buddy's truck with a diesel engine. I use his truck when I need to pull my back hoe.
And speaking of hoe's---any one of you heathens would dip your balls in that chick in GoGop's post, and I call bullchit on any statement otherwise. Aint nobody engaged in a 6 page conversation about the operating costs of a diesel vs. a gas engine gonna convince me that she's beneath their standards. Now, I'm not saying I'd walk a trail of broken glass if she was at the other end, but, c'mon, you'd hit it.
I think I've seen her at the draw at Otter.
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Well, dog, I would say that you need a big truck and keeping a newer one is better in your case, because having a truck in for repairs is costing you money not only for repair, but in time away from working. I was speaking in terms of a general person owning a truck and only puts on 15-20K a year.
I drive a turd ford ranger (which gets chitty gas mileage by the way) and I wouldn't drive a forking car either. It was just an example to illustrate the marginality in savings (for the average Joe) of comparing one truck to another when the difference in mileage is only a couple MPG different. My personal preference is to pay for a $400 repair every now and then, than having to pay some dude $400 every month on a note. I also hate giving a dude $2,000-$3,000 in interest over a time period, when I could have saved the money over the same amount of time and came out that $2,000-$3,000 ahead.
To further drive home the message to the ?why use my money when I can use theirs crowd.? Compare the ending amount due for 15 year fixed rate home mortgage ($150,000 for a $100,000 home) to that of a typical 30 year fixed rate (around $210,000 for a $100,000 home). Is the $250 difference per month worth the loss of $60,000 over those 15 years? Not to me. (Don?t bring up the difference in taxes for a paid for house versus a being paid for house, because the added amount of money you pay for taxes in a year is always less than the amount of money you would have thrown at that mortgage.) If the average Joe would follow principles like this and invest the money that he would have paid in interest to the bank, then a lot of us could say fork you to the boss man early and quit work while they are still able to chase ducks hard (and be able to afford it!).
This thread went from a dude asking a simple question about gas mileage to a pissing match to maintenance tips to financing a home and saving for retirement. To further drive this thread off the tracks, raise your hand if you got laid recently?
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What happens if ya pay cash for new stuff?? Am I still ahead????
Fork right you are!
Yeah, I rent still and do hate to piss that money away. But when I get to a place that I am going to be for a few years, I'm going with the 15 year fixed rate!
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"Salty the Thread Killa!"
I have a tendency to do that. I bet if a person read this thing from start to finish, they wouldn't even know what the first question was about.
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I drive a turd ford ranger (which gets chitty gas mileage by the way) and I wouldn't drive a forking car either. It was just an example to illustrate the marginality in savings (for the average Joe) of comparing one truck to another when the difference in mileage is only a couple MPG different. My personal preference is to pay for a $400 repair every now and then, than having to pay some dude $400 every month on a note. I also hate giving a dude $2,000-$3,000 in interest over a time period, when I could have saved the money over the same amount of time and came out that $2,000-$3,000 ahead.
Dude...I know yer in Missislipi now....but 0% interest means the man dont get nothin extra. Xplan pricing is as cheap as it gets. So where you goin with yer "I drive a piece of chit ranger because its better"?
All the while being debt free.
Since yer debt free you either own yer house outright or like dog says yer pissin yer money away on rent. If yer rentin...yer missin out come tax time. Not to mention that buyin a house is a better investment than pourin yer money down a rat hole with yer monthly rent check.
If you own....how big is that double wide you got down there in Missislippi?
Now you got a dog in the fight....so bring it on!
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To further drive home the message to the ?why use my money when I can use theirs crowd.? Compare the ending amount due for 15 year fixed rate home mortgage ($150,000 for a $100,000 home) to that of a typical 30 year fixed rate (around $210,000 for a $100,000 home). Is the $250 difference per month worth the loss of $60,000 over those 15 years? Not to me. (Don?t bring up the difference in taxes for a paid for house versus a being paid for house, because the added amount of money you pay for taxes in a year is always less than the amount of money you would have thrown at that mortgage.) If the average Joe would follow principles like this and invest the money that he would have paid in interest to the bank, then a lot of us could say fork you to the boss man early and quit work while they are still able to chase ducks hard (and be able to afford it!).
Ya got me thinkin Kevin.....I'm sellin the house and moving into a trailer park...the cheaper the better. That way with the money I make off my house sellin price, I can afford to pay rent to the local meth dealer for the next 40 years. I'll save on Mortgage payments, homeowners insurance, and those nasty Personal Propery Taxes in December. What was I thinking?
Afterall, I paid $160,000 for a house 7 years ago that appraised earlier this year for $245,000.....................yep I'm in a money losing situation here. Anyone know a good realator????? I need to sell before things get worse.
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You check the market lately dunce?
To get back to the 5th or so subject......I have the dealer
change the FF in the truck dude. I don't like takin the
fuel bath under the cab.
Any who, I think the housing market has tanked in Mo.
hasn't it.
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You can't get 0% on anything, but a new vehicle (Correct?). "Used cars have already depreciated (60 to 70% in the first 5 years). Buying used allows the person who bought the car when it was new to eat the cost of the depreciation." --Dave Ramsey (Yes, I've been brain washed to some degree)
You are saving money by not eating the depreciation. They are making money on the high-arse mark up.
I am in grad-school, now so I am pissing away money by renting. However, by renting a couple years, saving money for a bigger down payment, and then going with the 15 year note on a house, I will still be more ahead than if I had a crappy down payment and decided to go with the 30 year note for the relatively little savings per month.
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Dude...If your makin 4% on your money you shouldn't be
braggin. Hell, you might as well turn over
the financial reigns to your wife.
You ever figure that the intrest may be rolled into the
original purchase price???
BTW wizzard, weren't you going to trade the big diesel in
for an E85 burban a few months ago?
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I think the housing market has tanked in Mo.
hasn't it.
B
Thanks for the tip Nostrodamus!
If thats so then its just another cycle of economics....hell every barge deck hand knows that!
How is they say with investing "Buy low and sell high"?
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Ya got me thinkin Kevin.....I'm sellin the house and moving into a trailer park...the cheaper the better. That way with the money I make off my house sellin price, I can afford to pay rent to the local meth dealer for the next 40 years. I'll save on Mortgage payments, homeowners insurance, and those nasty Personal Propery Taxes in December. What was I thinking?
Afterall, I paid $160,000 for a house 7 years ago that appraised earlier this year for $245,000.....................yep I'm in a money losing situation here. Anyone know a good realator????? I need to sell before things get worse.
You?re taking what I said out of context in an excellent attempt at being a smart arse. Owning is better than renting when you are staying put for a while, but a 15 year note, will save you more in the long term than a 30 year note.
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Dude, I was jokin about the truck and boat. I have a 20 ft
bass boat and a 17 ft Gator trax all bought by cash.
As far as the pension goes, all companies are trying to
get away from them. I "hope" that mine won't freeze before
I reach 30 years, but it may.
However, if I need any financial advice like how to work
till you die because your too dumb to make over 4% on your
money, I'll know who to call..
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I got vested stock options right now that will make your forkin deck hand pension look like monopoly money.
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Kevin;
You have got the world by the balls....everyone was there at one point and time in their life.
Good luck going the 15 year route. Many people buy a house once they decide to settle down and get married....one of the most financially strapped times in a persons life. The difference in payment between a 15 and 30 year loan means the difference between payin the phone bill, water bill and car insurance.
I really aint got a dog in this fight, but instead of 15 year, you might look at a 30 year note only pay half of the payment every two weeks versus making a payment each month. You calculous majors do that math and get back with us.
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Wow dude...$245,00??? that is a starter home. Probably all
vinyl.
One thing to remember dog, home prices will rise and fall
but double wides will stay about the same. This will be
good information for you when they forclose.
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I hear ya Krazy, gotta love our stock options.
I figured up what I feel I need to retire comfortably,
figured in inflation of 3.5% a year and hell I'm 1/3 of
the way there already. Good thing I'm doing a little better
than 4% returns.
God thats dumb.
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You check the market lately dunce?
To get back to the 5th or so subject......I have the dealer
change the FF in the truck dude. I don't like takin the
fuel bath under the cab.
Any who, I think the housing market has tanked in Mo.
hasn't it.
B
Don't think to hard, you might hurt yourself.
The Columbia Board of Realitors sales statistics showed 1,526 homes were bought during the first six months of the year, up 4.7% from the first half of last year. Also US housing sales were down 7% for the second quarter where as Missouri GAINED .8%, one of twenty states do do so. The former "boom" area in real estate experienced huge declines. States like Florida, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Virginia. This is my favorite part Other areas of modest sales gains during the "boom" years are experiencing STRONG growth. led by Alaska, Texas, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Vermont.
Just because the sky is fallin in your neck of the woods doens't mean it is here. A growing college town is always a great place to have a home. Sure we are slowing down, but it ain't going backwards like in say your neck of the woods.
Imagine that....a number crunchin, pencil sharpening, bean counting, workin for the MAN desk jockey don't wanna get dirty. It's easy to do. Try sometime. Worst case I'll send my handy dandy labor over. He'll change it in 15 minutes for $14.00/hour.
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Right on there dabs. I bought my first house @ 23 and did
the 30 year to start. Just try to keep paying the extra
principle payments every month, it pays in the end.
Good luck Kevin.
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Kevin;
You have got the world by the balls....everyone was there at one point and time in their life.
Good luck going the 15 year route. Many people buy a house once they decide to settle down and get married....one of the most financially strapped times in a persons life. The difference in payment between a 15 and 30 year loan means the difference between payin the phone bill, water bill and car insurance.
I really aint got a dog in this fight, but instead of 15 year, you might look at a 30 year note only pay half of the payment every two weeks versus making a payment each month. You calculous majors do that math and get back with us.
dab
Yeah, we tend to go the conservative "what if" rought. Meaning a 20 to 30 year note and making the extra payments when we can when it comes time to buy a house. I like to have that padding in our budget for when the chit hits the fan times. Haveing the budget on the 15 year plan, but actually have a 20 - 30 note makes some padding for some peace of mind. I don't know if you are familiar with the Dave Ramsey "Total money make over" stuff, but my wife and I have an emergency - emergency fund.
Your every two week thing is the equivalent of just paying an extra month's house payment every year. It will knock a couple years off of your mortgage, but the 15 year route is the way to go if you can swing it.
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You check the market lately dunce?
To get back to the 5th or so subject......I have the dealer
change the FF in the truck dude. I don't like takin the
fuel bath under the cab.
Any who, I think the housing market has tanked in Mo.
hasn't it.
B
Don't think to hard, you might hurt yourself.
The Columbia Board of Realitors sales statistics showed 1,526 homes were bought during the first six months of the year, up 4.7% from the first half of last year. Also US housing sales were down 7% for the second quarter where as Missouri GAINED .8%, one of twenty states do do so. The former "boom" area in real estate experienced huge declines. States like Florida, California, Nevada, Arizona, and Virginia. This is my favorite part Other areas of modest sales gains during the "boom" years are experiencing STRONG growth. led by Alaska, Texas, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Vermont.
Just because the sky is fallin in your neck of the woods doens't mean it is here. A growing college town is always a great place to have a home. Sure we are slowing down, but it ain't going backwards like in say your neck of the woods.
Imagine that....a number crunchin, pencil sharpening, bean counting, workin for the MAN desk jockey don't wanna get dirty. It's easy to do. Try sometime. Worst case I'll send my handy dandy labor over. He'll change it in 15 minutes for $14.00/hour.
OK, Alaska,Texas,N.C.,Vermont????WTF......News flash...I
don't live there.
Yes dog, I'll pay a grease jockey $15 hr to change my
fuel filter, my time is worth more than that. And don't
worry about me, I came up the ladder by working. Hell I
can put an EMD together with my eyes semi closed. And
tell ya whats wrong with it by looking at the expansion
tank. I can do the job of everyone who works for me.
Put that in your crack pipe....BTW what do you do again,
dig ditches??? That must be tough.
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Good thing I'm doing a little better
than 4% returns.
God thats dumb.
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Dude, yer whippin a  here. He's talkin about disposable income in a money market acount. You know......ready cash, pocket change. Course if you go below 15 grand or so, you get a lesser rate.
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Damn missed it at first. .08 percent growth....thats huge
real huge.
Would this have been all the intrest only and variable
loan people buying smaller homes because they cant
afford the bigger ones anymore?
It is good for me dog, those $600K homes will be going
for 5 by the time my transfer comes through this winter.
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If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
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If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
Drive a Mercedes do ya PS?
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If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
If I lived in East Memphrica I wouldnt be broadcastin it.
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If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
I can provide a link to show everyone what you make PS...I haven't done so to this point so as not to embarass your self righteousness.
But, you don't do bad for someone who sits around on their damn couch all day changing diapers!
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To bad there his own diapers.
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Uh, Oh!! Another cover blown.
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Yep starter home for sure. Not a bad home for a dude that was 25 when he bought it. Vinyl....yep on three sides. Brick on the front. Its a great double stacked double wide. Engineering at its best. Its hell living in this dump but when I get my 2 excavators, and trackloader paid off next summer, we is Moving on Up like the Jeffersons.
You keep workin for the man for the next 24 years and see where that gets ya. Let us know how things work out. Call me in Alaska or Costa Rica.
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Will you quit forkin with dude Dog, so he can hep us dumbasses on the other important thread. We need an answer before he goes home for the day.
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OK, Alaska,Texas,N.C.,Vermont????WTF......News flash...I
don't live there.
Yes dog, I'll pay a grease jockey $15 hr to change my
fuel filter, my time is worth more than that. And don't
worry about me, I came up the ladder by working. Hell I
can put an EMD together with my eyes semi closed. And
tell ya whats wrong with it by looking at the expansion
tank. I can do the job of everyone who works for me.
Put that in your crack pipe....BTW what do you do again,
dig ditches??? That must be tough.
B.
I believe the question was about checking the market lately....please stay on topic biatch. You THOUGHT the market had tanked here in MOMO.
I'm impressed...you can do everyone's job that works for ya. That make you the Stupidvisor then doesn't it. A stupidvisor workin for the man. Quite impressive. :rotfflmgdfao: :rotfflmgdfao:
I don't dig ditches, cut grass, trim bushes, or mow lawns. Please pay attention.
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Dog...remember to set aside around 15% of your job profit
for replacement cost on your equipment.
Don't worry, the man has been treating me good. Hell, I
could go into buisness for myself but I would have to go
backwards in life. Thats not a good plan.
If I wanted to go to Alaska or Costa Rica I would go.
The wife and I prefer Aruba though. And we don't put it
on a credit either.
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Sorry foots.....hey Stupidvisor math wizard go help us out on our delima. Make yourself more useless than ya aready are.
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Dog...remember to set aside around 15% of your job profit
for replacement cost on your equipment.
Don't worry, the man has been treating me good. Hell, I
could go into buisness for myself but I would have to go
backwards in life. Thats not a good plan.
If I wanted to go to Alaska or Costa Rica I would go.
The wife and I prefer Aruba though. And we don't put it
on a credit either.
B.
Fork Aruba....try Cabo and not some dive in Cabo San Lucas neither. You ever hear of "One & Only"? Better yet...you ever stay at one?
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I always knew that this place would be of assistance--
Several members of another forum got this email recently and wondered if the economic majors,deckhands and landscapers that shape US economic ploicy could tell them if this is a good deal
Greetings
I,General Kimbabwe Motumba, Nigerian Minister of Diesel Trucks,Rental Mobile Homes and Economics,request your assistance. Recent political unrest in Nigeria has threatened the value of my most coveted diesel trucks and my most beloved mobile home parks.
Scum dogs of Money Lenders are only willing to pay me 4% on this most excellent diesel trucks used only to pull front end loaders on Sunday and the mobile home parks only have graduate students and deckhands living there. These are finest kind investments and the mangy money lending dogs will not recognize these are fine investments.
I need your most gracious assistance to help me move Nigerian currency to United States banks.
Since Nigeria exports oil and is paid in annual sums, the USA banks ask that an American citizen be on the account to insure proper payment of any advances.
These advances are commonly good for 15 years of high interest payments due to the index of oil futures (considerably higher than the paltry and insulting 4% that the sons of mangy she dogs offer).
To assist me and in doing so assist your country, please forward me a cheque for $10,000 dollars for which you will be rewarded the sum of $100,000 and several mobile home rental units in Louisiana when the annual oil future money will deposited in the National Nigerian Bank accounts in the USA.
Sincerely
General Kimbabwe Motumba
Minister of Diesel Trucks,Rental Mobile Homes and Economics (who needs you to help him outwit the slobbering sons of slut she dogs, who should drug out into the streets and shot, then hung by their heels)
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Stupidvisor.......nice. Is that all ya got.
Dog I'm still trying to find out what you DO .
Besides being a dumbarse, I suppose it's anyones guess.
Hunt and fish....it's all that matters right?
Off topic? your the one who wanted to talk about the
housing market and that raggedy dump you call home.
Hell dude, I wanted to talk about money or maintenance but
obviously you know nothing about either one. I guess we
could talk about our portfolios or finances, but your idea
of "net gains" is pulling up a hoop net full of flatheads.
Don't waste my time.
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Wu, where do I send the check. Any guy would be an idiot to not see that investing 10gs to get 100gs is a sweet deal.
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Not much on Mexico. We like to stay at one of the Sandals,
they treat you very well. Class act all the way from the
ones I've stayed at.
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I would like to help the poor bass turds.
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If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
I can provide a link to show everyone what you make PS...I haven't done so to this point so as not to embarass your self righteousness.
But, you don't do bad for someone who sits around on their damn couch all day changing diapers!
You can provide a link for my university salary, but I don't think my federal salary is listed. It ain't that damn much though. Thank God the wife works or I would be out on the street. I don't drive a forking Mercedes Foots. Oh, and the wife traded the BMW for a minivan when the first critter was hatched.
Krazy: East Memphis isn't so bad ifn' you live in the Georgetown area like I do.
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Personally, I like nothing better then to piss off the neighbors and especially other hunters at a hotel when I warm it up in the morning.
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please stay on topic biatch.
Yes, please stay on topic like the rest of us.
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PoisonSnake said:
If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
I can provide a link to show everyone what you make PS...I haven't done so to this point so as not to embarass your self righteousness.
But, you don't do bad for someone who sits around on their damn couch all day changing diapers!
You can provide a link for my university salary, but I don't think my federal salary is listed. It ain't that damn much though. Thank God the wife works or I would be out on the street. I don't drive a forking Mercedes Foots. Oh, and the wife traded the BMW for a minivan when the first critter was hatched.
Krazy: East Memphis isn't so bad ifn' you live in the Georgetown area like I do.
Georgetown, Germantown...you still live in Memphrica. They ever get rid of that  Mayor? Course he liked drivin diesels....so he wasnt all bad.
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Here's what I do.......MAKE MONEY and pay people like you to work. That's all you to be concerned with. When you start working for Morgan Stanley Dean Witter we can discuss my IRA's. I didn't know I had to share a balance sheet and assets page with a deck hand.
Hoop nets are illegal on the MOMO river for flatheads anyway.....The prefered method is "crankin" them up.
Wu.....where do I send the cashier's check to. VERY interested.
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Georgetown, Germantown...you still live in Memphrica. They ever get rid of that Mayor? Course he liked drivin diesels....so he wasnt all bad.
Damn nigga rich brother wastin money on fuel...typical.
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Germantown, thats right. I thought for a second I was in DC.
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10 pages of this nonsense and we know that excavating and tug boat hands make a lot of money but don't know if a gas engine is better than a diesel or vice versa. I say wait for the methane based engine. A guy could run his trucks for years with all the stinking a-holes on this site.
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Well, I wouldn't call that chit scribbled on a napkin an
asset page. I'm sure your "balance sheet" includes
transvering ice also.
Dude you can't afford me, my salary would have to at least
double yours. "Economics 102" says this isn't feasable. I still have to show some of my
employees the correct way to perform their jobs. My question
is, how bad does your back hurt after diggin with those
beaners all day??
It's good to see that you know all about your "net gains".
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I'm puttin up all my chit for sale, sellin the double wide, and heading south to become a deckhand. That way I can know everything, work for someone else for the rest of my life while making nothing.......because if I was making more than nothing, I wouldn't have to work for the same company for 40 years. Talk about not planning right for retirement. Atleast DoucheGrits boss found the right sucker for the job. He's gonna get 40 years of work outta one dude. TO THA MAN.
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Whack. Refer back to around page 2.
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Dog I have immediate openings..pay is $165 per day on a
lunchbucket boat. Live on engineer......never mind.
Dude, you ever think that maybe people will stick around
for the insurance?
I gotta give it to ya, that last melt down you just had
baffels me.
Dumbarse.
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What this manual labor you describe??? I ain't touched a shovel in over 18 months. Hard to touch a shovel in an air conditioned cab.
You are right...I can't afford you. I don't have enough time to teach you. The operator has to be smarter than the equipment so we wouldn't get far with you.
Pleae continue with the gas is better than diesel for the money lecture. After all ya got so many people agreein with ya.
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Gone are the days of working for insurance. My insurance is like my weiner, with me whereever I go. I'll be damned if I would rely on a company for my retirement(pension) or healthcare(insurance)
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Ya I could still be slingin boxes at UPS for some of the best insurance in the world and have mmmmnnnnnnnnnn.......yep 6 weeks of vacation this year if I was still there. Sound familiar??????
My wife and I are both self-employed and its amazing you can get good eye, dental, & medical insurance for a decent price. Sure it costs $250+ a month, but I'll take that trade off for more vacation and money.
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Your right again dog. An excavator cab is far better than
my desk. Sure I still go to the shipyards to
oversee our repairs,but my truck is a/c too.
Any who, talk to me about insurance when you get older.
Well theres always Medicaid for you and the fam.
If everyone is in agreement with you, why aren't you
getting more backing?
Have a good time in Arkansas or wherever your going.
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Gaaaaad......will somebody at the controls PULEEEEEZE throw the switch on this forkin' thang.....
The orginal question was about diesel fuel mileage...... 
Krazy, check out this FEtch......
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/
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If you mother fornicaters made as much $ as I do, you wouldn't be talking all this chit.
I can provide a link to show everyone what you make PS...I haven't done so to this point so as not to embarass your self righteousness.
But, you don't do bad for someone who sits around on their damn couch all day changing diapers!
You can provide a link for my university salary, but I don't think my federal salary is listed...
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My 1 ton power stroke gets around 27 m.p.g set on cruise at 65 mph.
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3/4 ton GMC that gets 20 @ 70-75mph going acrost KS
Oh yeah, avg mileage on it after 68k miles is 17.0.
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I get about 17 combined city and hwy....I can get over 20 if I keep it around 65 on the highway....but I don't....Like DosKnucklehead said....griffin
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BigBob said:
My Dodge will do 15 in town and can get @18 on the highway if I keep my foot off the peddle. That is on 1 ton dually. I love my diesel and I will never replace it with a gasser!
I had a chevy 350 and it would never do better than 15 and 11.
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I wouldn't trade my diesel either.
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I get 18-20 around town and about 23 on the hwy doin 75-80. Its gets even better if you dont have a heavy foot like i do. And performance mods do increase fuel economy.
Jim
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Sold it with 146,000 miles on it for $18,000 in 2005.....book was $18,700. Try that with your gas truck. griffin
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I just traded my 02 7.3 diesl for 5.4 gas burner went from 20 mpg to 12 mpg Big fork up
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Just buy the damn diesel and be done with it.
Geuss im lucky enough to have a 6.0 that hasn't had a problem,even with 234,379.7 miles on it
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I've owned a bunch of gas trucks in my life, and bought my first diesel, a 99 Dodge, 3 years ago. I won't buy another gasser.
I double tow with my 28' 5th wheel with the 18' jetboat on the back of it and still do about 14 mpg. Try that with a gas truck and see what your mileage does.
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Anything but gas. That would be a nice addition to the family.
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I aint owned a gas pickup since '93. All have been Dodge so I cant really speak from first hand experience too much on other brands.
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Krazy, I got mine about a month ago, i went from 11 mpg about everywhere, to 19 in the city and 22-23 on the highway. Im gonna get the chip that is supposed to give 4-5 more mpg.
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Hell, I get more mileage out of a good mess of chili farts than either of you get out of your fuel guzzlers.
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BTW - you spend DOUBLE for fuel in your diesel vs. your old ladies rig and you drive a company truck to work?? BULLCRAP!
Try it this way numbnuts.....figure the old hag drives a rig that gets 20 mpg and your pile of junk gets 15. She pays $2.80 a gallon and you pay $3.00. You both drive 100 miles a day. At the end of the month you spent $180.00 more then her. She's in for $420 and you're in for $600.
If you want.....I'll figure it out for the 30,000 you got on your rig and the piece of crap she drives....it ain't NOWHERE near double for your raggedy ass truck that you claim it is...and keep in mind, pea brain...she ain't getting 20 and you ain't getting 15.
KEEP MAKING THAT GOOD CHEESE!!!!!!!!
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I threw this one in since it made me laugh.
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For the last three months around my house diesel was 20 cents cheaper than gas,
Need More???
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Dam...I wonder how much mileage a fella could get iffn he posted up a thread on banning robos.
More milage than a gas guzzlin truck thats for sure.
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My '96 Ford has 201,xxx miles and still gets 19mpg going to/from work (Foristell to Earth City). I have gotten as much as 23-24 going on long trips. It's got 3.55s in it so that helps.
Another Diesel man I see.
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When I walk away from
here in 24 more years I will have 40 years of service, paid
insurance and a good pension, (hopefully). So yes I will
keep workin and retire at 60, luckily I have over 5 weeks
vacation to enjoy each year till then.
Do you mind if I cut this out to show to my kid for the times when he thinks school isn't important??
griffin
This one really got me laughin.
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Dos Gris said:
When I walk away from
here in 24 more years I will have 40 years of service, paid
insurance and a good pension, (hopefully). So yes I will
keep workin and retire at 60, luckily I have over 5 weeks
vacation to enjoy each year till then.
Do you mind if I cut this out to show to my kid for the times when he thinks school isn't important??
griffin
This one really got me laughin.
Its not a double post......just worth another look.
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If everyone is in agreement with you, why aren't you
getting more backing?
B
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Leave us alone....we're now taking financial lessons from a guy who aspires to retire when he's SIXTY.
Must of been one of those kids whose parents told him that finishing last is OK as long as you try hard.
griffin
I know this is from another post but gawd damn its funny.
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Come-on Dog, dont stop now your on a ROLL!!!!!!!
Hope fully thats a down hill roll for GrossTits gasser!!!!!!!
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Is this secretly PitPaul reincarnated as Dog? This wasn't just a flood, it was a tidal wave. C;mon, Guys, we ought to hit 1000 before the night is over.
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This thread has takin a dog of it's own.
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yall leave me alone....I'm still trying to find people who like diesel trucks. By gawd, I will find one before the night is out. Hey Mel what you drive dude besides that Methane producing rig ya got?
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Just my quiet little dodge so I can sneak up on 'em. Course, momma drives your favorite other type of chrysler vehicle.
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Dos Gris
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God, I thought you would have given up by now.
One more time dog....From the page of your last post,
everyone with credibility is a tower. I stated back at
the first post that if your towing, a diesel is the way
to go.
If your just a daily driver, gas is far cheaper period.
Most of the last post state 17 to 19 mpg....the same as
a gas vehicle. I own both, so I know the maintenance cost.
Lets even make it more simple for you to understand. If
the diesels were the way to go, why is there so many gas
trucks and cars out there? Is everyone a stupidvisor? Like I said before, I like my diesel
it tows my boats great. Other than that it sits in the
driveway.
I think it's cool that we've covered so many topics on
this thread, but it's time to end it dude.
If I haven't made my point then your too dumb to continue
talking to.
I thought it was funny at first, but now I feel bad for
picking on you. Sort of like kicking a retard in the nuts.
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Yeah Dos.....you were all over this one.
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The problem with your math 2grit is that most gas trucks don't get 17-19 on average and 20+ on the highway...unless they are driving a gutless 6 banger.......that's a perfect "daily driver" Hell go look at the stickers on most pickups and they got 12 City 15 Hwy.
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thats why I ride a bike!
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What kinda fuel milage ya get on that Burk.
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Hey Diesel Mensa Material......if Fuel Milage was so Gawd Damn important how come we all ain't riding scooters and Driving Geo Metro's Maintenance cost is much cheaper too.
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thats why I ride a bike!
Is it a diesel?
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Hey Diesel Mensa Material......if Fuel Milage was so Gawd Damn important how come we all ain't riding scooters and Driving Geo Metro's Maintenance cost is much cheaper too.
That was kind of my point before I got to preachin? to the choir on better ways to save money. Buy what you want and fits your needs, for the average dude, a few MPG doesn?t really make a whole hell of a lot of difference in the grand scheme of things. At our house, our gas expenditures pre and post Katrina have not really changed, despite the 60 some odd % increase in fuel costs at the pump, because we changed our driving habits (a better way to save money than buying new chit ).
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What kinda fuel milage ya get on that Burk.
well I do go thru damn near a whole can of this stuff in a years time...
but I ain't to sure if has diesel in it or not?
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edwards
Eat chit genius....
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Dude..now come on. We all know them EPA estimates is what a grandma would get IF she followed the outdated standards. You run 55mph on most 4 lanes around here and you get yer doors blown off.
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Dos Gris
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Dude...WTF ya think these guys are doing with this 23 mpg
bull on their rigs.
I could just see waterpup putting around at 40 mph this
morning, praying to see a 20 mpg pop up on his fuel
calculator.
Truthfully, I just want to see this hit 14 pages.
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Whats 14 pages got to do with.....uhhhhhh what was the question again?
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something about your wife getting pissed about a new shinny red twuk in the drive.
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So how does 14 City average and 18 Hwy average for gas on the EPA standards compare with 17 City and 20 Hwy for real driving on a diesel. Ya still get more MPG out of the diesel plus ya got the pullin power when ya need it. Diesel engines are good for 200,000+ easy. A gas motor with that kind of milage is like the local 45 year old $10 crack whore.
I got beer and whiskey to drink. I could give a fuk less if my truck got 9 miles a gallon. I drive a diesel for the pullin power. Yall have a good weekend....except 2Greebs. I started my 6 day weekend yesterday, and it didn't cost me a single vacation or sick day. I really hate that.........no really I do.
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something about your wife getting pissed about a new shinny red twuk in the drive.
Nope..that aint gonna happen. Me leavin it sittin in the driveway would be just plain silly.
It's in the barn.....wonder how long before she heads out there and sees it?
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In light of the recent topics....this one might have a chance for a few more pages.
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Krazy.....how many bushel will that rig of yours.....
ahhhh, never mind. 
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Do they make any deisel motorcycles?
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Dude....I saw my mistakes. I've sold every thing I own that runs on diesel. Waste Oil is the future I tell ya.
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Dude.....bio-diesel, good for the stock.
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Do you have to stand in a draw line to buy diesel?
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Mel, I don't buy diesel anymore. Pay attention.
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Mel, I don't buy diesel anymore. Pay attention.
I know you don't. Just wondered if the other poor souls had to stand in a draw line. Thought maybe they had to go to Arkieland to get away from it.
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Do they make any deisel motorcycles?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Diesel-po...1QQcmdZViewItem
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