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I'm guessing every winner of every award would trade it in about 5 seconds for the Cup.
When you consider that sports writers do most of the voting (GM of the Year is by GM's and some execs and some sports writers), you can always expect East Coast bias. That's just the reality of it. You can also usually expect some head-scratcher's. This year wasn't too bad. Any hockey knowledgeable person could make a compelling argument for all of the winners this year. Had the voting occurred after the playoffs, the Blues would have easily won some more hardware.
Voting at the end of the regular season is the right thing to do for most of the awards. Otherwise stars like Connor McDavid could have the best season of all players and not have a chance at an award because his team sucked. I think GM of the Year should be after the playoffs. How many times have we seen 100+ point season teams get bounced in the 1st or 2nd round? A great GM builds a team that can get to the playoffs and win in the playoffs. I've heard the GM of the Year voting is after a round or two of the playoffs but that is not what the NHL says in their description of the award. "An annual award presented to recognize the work of the league’s general managers, voting for this new award is conducted among the 30 club general managers and a panel of NHL executives, print and broadcast media at the conclusion of the regular season."
Still a little giddy just thinking about the Blues spending all next season being the "Defending Stanley Cup Champions" 
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After a short amount of time thinking about this award issue I have found that I don't give a rats ass who gets these awards, or who votes for them, or when.
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After a short amount of time thinking about this award issue I have found that I don't give a rats ass who gets these awards, or who votes for them, or when.
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This is real Palm Springs stuff also
https://twitter.com/i/status/1136825510099587072
Yesterday's news - The Agua Caliente Indians and another conglomerate are building a 10,000 seat arena for hockey and concerts, on prime tribal lands in downtown P.S., near their casino. Once again, it is confirmed - NO government funding. Live Nation also with skin in the deal.
This morning, P.S. is chosen as location for Seattle AHL affiliate team.
Good concerts. Good hockey.
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I confess I would like to go to Palm Springs and play some golf and stay at Sinatra's Palm house and have a toddy by the pool.
But that's about it.
bwaaaaaaaaa
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I confess I would like to go to Palm Springs and play some golf and stay at Sinatra's Palm house and have a toddy by the pool.
But that's about it.
bwaaaaaaaaa
I'm afraid the traffic in this area will be wicked, and they will have to improve the roads, you'd be better at the pool.
The bartender at our club, is a funny old marine, and this may ruin his season, hopefully, it's a good team.
He says that his favourite holiday, is Groundhog Day, because on that day, he knows there will only be 6 more weeks of Canadians. 
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So will the Note try to recreate the magic of last year and sign any of the UFA's? Apparently Gunnarsson signed a deal less than expected to stay with the team. Will they re-sign Maroon? How long and how much for Binnington? Will they find someone to give them a bag of pucks and a old jockstrap for JA?
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They'll re-sign Maroon. He's a bargain as it is and he will still take less than market value to be able to stay here where his son is.
They'll sign Binnington as well....because if they don't they'll be run out of town on a rail.
My guess is Allen stays. Really no point in letting him go now when he's already signed and he'll be the best back-up in the league.....they'd just end up having to eat part of his contract so they might as well keep him.
If they trade anyone, it should be Petreangelo while he still has some value. Let's face it, this is not his team as the Captain. It belongs to O'Reilly now.....rightfully so. Move Petreangelo now by trading for a goal scorer.
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So will the Note try to recreate the magic of last year and sign any of the UFA's? Apparently Gunnarsson signed a deal less than expected to stay with the team. Will they re-sign Maroon? How long and how much for Binnington? Will they find someone to give them a bag of pucks and a old jockstrap for JA?
Keep Allen. If Binnington falters or gets injured, you're going to need experience to take over.
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LTG?? What experience? The experience of a Jekyll & Hyde netminder who can go from looking like Jacques Plante to Jacques Clousseau in a nano-second? Who is good for a really soft goal about every other game? Who it is pretty obvious that the team doesn't want to play in front of??
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It's a strange thing winning a Cup. Visions get blurred, minds get bent....and apparently Allen gets yet another chance with the fans and DA is more than happy for his boy to oblige.
Chicago, Dallas, Avs, Wild and the Turds all making moves to get better. The Central will be brutal.
The Blues remain intact. The contracts are all there. They were no doubt special to win that Cup and now we are all about to find out just how special they can be. In hockey, 2 in a row is a dynasty by itself.
Moving Petro now would be the biggest thrown bombshell in this franchises history. I'm pretty sure Army is trying to extend him. The guy resurrected himself from his worst year ever with his play off performance. Doughty got 10/7, Karlsson got 11/8....that's what the Blues are staring at without injury or more bad play the coming year.
I would not do it. But this is DA's wheelhouse....it's the re signing of aging players that has been his worst enemy and the grandaddy of them all is coming up soon.
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I don't want long, expensive contracts for aging players anymore. With the talent coming up in the franchise they don't need to do it.
As for Allen.....he's already signed. I don't think he can take the Blues to the places like they went this season, but I found something to respect the guy for.....he put the team first through the playoffs, and by all accounts, helped Binnington quite a bit. I think the guy is a better backup than he is starter......yeah, an expensive one, but it's already done. How about just leave the forking goalie situation alone for once.
The only way I sign on for keeping Petreangelo is if he no longer wears the C and he gets a 1 or 2 year deal. THAT TEAM NEEDS SCORING!! He's the asset you can move to get some. Now is the time.
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You know me....if he wears Blue I don't hate anybody. bwaaaaaaaa..........at least I'm consistent.
It was DA who abused the fans and Allen night after night. He's been inconsistent his whole career as a starter and he'd still be out there doing his thing if Binner hadn't stumbled into their laps the way he did.
He'll likely stay I get that but not really and God help them if he goes back to #1 under any circumstance.
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I certainly understand all the Allen talk.....I was happy to lead it through the season.
Now I'd just like to enjoy a Blue's season with no goalie controversy. I don't feel like it's asking too much after winning a Cup.
Trade Petreangelo or sign him short term, get what you can from Allen as a backup (prolly plenty), and trade them both when a great deal comes along.
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0% chance Petro signs anything less than a 5 year deal and it will likely be 6 or more, for big bucks. There was a slim chance of a hometown discount and/or shorter term deal before the Cup. That very slim chance went to zero, when he hoisted the Cup. If the Blues want to keep him, it will be a huge deal and will likely cripple their ability to make any big splashes, with future signings. I'd be in favor of trading him. The only teams that will trade for him will be Cup contenders and you will not get a top line scorer for him. It will likely be some combination of high draft picks and prospects.
Allen will likely stay because of that salary. If he stays and plays 25% of the games, that should work out fine. He'll be the most expensive back-up in the league but as Scott said, what's done is done.
As much as I like Maroon and hope they sign him, he's not going to make or break the team. I said the same about Reaves. If your 3rd or 4th line muscleman is the difference in advancing in the playoffs, you have some other pretty big issues. He is a feel-good story but can be replaced for less than the $3 mil or $4 mil that he will likely get on a 2-3 year deal. And if he gets that, good for him!! I just think the Blues are likely to offer him $2 mil or less for 1-2 years. I give credit to DA for letting someone else pay for the end of Backes' career. This isn't exactly the same but the same concept.
Overall, I think the Dallas moves are over-hyped. They didn't get much faster or bigger. It looks to me like they may have improved on the skill level but enough to make a difference? I guess we'll see. I think the team to watch is the Av's. Lots of speed, young players, some skill and some size. I could see them in the Western Conf. Finals next year.
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If you are talking about a "dynasty" in hockey.....kind of like the run that Chicago had a few years ago....Colorado is the one team that is primed for that run.
They can be a final 4 team for the next 3-5 years.
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Avs have a great future but for right now I think their D keeps them from reaching any Cup final. They lost Barrie and their front 4 has too much inexperience to be shut down good and 5 + 6 aren't really any good.
Stars were, imo, the best team the Blues faced in the playoffs. BISHOP was a big part of that but if he stays healthy they aren't slipping away. Agree the trade deal was odd...in fact I'd take the faster younger Zuc over Pavs and I can't believe Perry and the other dude are going to do much for them maybe muscle from Perry. I see the Stars as a wash off season but great coach and a wash trade might be good enough for them.
Blues main deal over the rest in the Central is their depth of players. They are out starred on some top line bling but long on depth including a very good 7 D. Act ll is gonna be harder than the first Act it's going to be interesting.
Here's to Duchene flopping in turdville. Says he wants to be a C&W singer tweeting pictures of his forking boots. Fork everything about that team I can not stand that franchise.
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Do you forkers ever rest?
Go blow some chit up and drink a beer - or go drink a beer and blow some chit up...but give your brains a month off from ice soccer.
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Do you forkers ever rest?
Go blow some chit up and drink a beer - or go drink a beer and blow some chit up...but give your brains a month off from ice soccer.
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sptsman
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Here's to Duchene flopping in turdville. Says he wants to be a C&W singer tweeting pictures of his forking boots. Fork everything about that team I can not stand that franchise.
So much for the lovefest with griffin. Them's his boys you know. That's where he and his monies go...
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Heading down there in a couple weeks for a party weekend.....best bar scene in the country without question.
I need to get down there during the season to catch a game sometime.
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Griffin make sure to wear your Blues gear.. err.. I mean the stuff you didn't burn..  
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Yeah, I suppose I'm gonna have to break down and get me some Stanley Cup Champions gear.....at least a ball cap.
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Please... at least do that...and wear it down there...knowing what I do know of you I'm guessing all hell will break loose.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Wife and I have been talking about a trip down there too.....but then again.....the more I think about it....fork that.
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Ok, here's the deal......I figure you beat me this season with Blue's predictions. We got another season coming, and it has the potential to be ugly again. If I get thrown in jail down there for fighting Predator fans, we're even going in, yeah?
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