Matt, I know Rick and the guys at Echo use them, and really have great luck with them. They are built like a tank, not meaning they are super heavy, but they take alot of abuse and take it well. Those guys use there boats hard, and they have held up great. I've been in them quite a few times, on some pretty rough trips, and if I was going to buy a new boat, it would be my choice, after seeing the abuse they will take.