Well our youth hunter worked his rear end off and no success. At one point he had a group of does about fifty yards out and his dad said it was ok to shoot. To his credit the young'un said he did not have a clear shot at the vitals so he did not shoot. Got to give him credit for that. I guess he also paid attention to my lecture on shooting young buck because he passed on a 4 pointer that he could have taken easily. I guess the lesson learned is its not all about killing something but how you do it. This little guy is going to be one ethical hunter.